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    <description>The Revelation Project is an individual and holistic movement that disrupts the trance of unworthiness and lifts the veils of personal illusion and cultural deception that keep us from remembering our divinity and inherent wholeness. The Revelation Project Podcast explores alternative narratives to traditional patriarchal influences that awaken, liberate and activate awareness. Join us to investigate vulnerable and courageous topics that reveal more magic, wonder, and beauty than we ever thought possible.  Life is a revelation, and what gets revealed gets healed.
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  <title>Episode 164: Seán Pádraig O'Donoghue - Courting The Wild Queen: Animism &amp; Our Romance with Life</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Monica talks to Seán Pádraig O’Donoghue about his book Courting the Wild Queen.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Throughout this episode, Seán Pádraig O’Donoghue weaves a wonderful conversation that brings nature alive in our awareness. He sees plants and fungi as our ancestors and kin with their own intelligence, and we delve into the concept of identity and what it means to break the habit of being human. 
He speaks of a time when the King was wedded to the land and that the core of our suffering is due to forgetting and the severing of our relationship with it. 
Sean shares his insights into animism, where the world is alive, and all beings, including humans, are equal in significance. He suggests that building a relationship with other-than-human beings is vital, and it begins with consistency and spending time with a place in the natural world, or a tree, river, local or plant to develop a relationship. 
Sean suggests that dropping the veil is necessary to see beyond certain levels of reality and see’s our consciousness as a variation of the microrisal webs that form the minds of forests and fields, and that in order to reach beyond- reorganization of the brain is necessary.
Take a deep dive into discovering your true self and your connection to the natural world in this episode 
Topics discussed: 
* Herbalism and plants/fungi as ancestors 
* Astrology 
* Sovereignty 
* Building relationships with other-than-human beings 
* Identity 
* Animism 
Sean is an herbalist, writer, poet, teacher, and initiated priest in two traditions, and his work with plants and fungi weaves together traditional western herbalism, contemporary science, Irish and Nordic animism, and his own lived experience. Special Guest: Seán Pádraig O'Donoghue.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Throughout this episode, Seán Pádraig O’Donoghue weaves a wonderful conversation that brings nature alive in our awareness. He sees plants and fungi as our ancestors and kin with their own intelligence, and we delve into the concept of identity and what it means to break the habit of being human. </p>

<p>He speaks of a time when the King was wedded to the land and that the core of our suffering is due to forgetting and the severing of our relationship with it. </p>

<p>Sean shares his insights into animism, where the world is alive, and all beings, including humans, are equal in significance. He suggests that building a relationship with other-than-human beings is vital, and it begins with consistency and spending time with a place in the natural world, or a tree, river, local or plant to develop a relationship. </p>

<p>Sean suggests that dropping the veil is necessary to see beyond certain levels of reality and see’s our consciousness as a variation of the microrisal webs that form the minds of forests and fields, and that in order to reach beyond- reorganization of the brain is necessary.</p>

<p>Take a deep dive into discovering your true self and your connection to the natural world in this episode </p>

<p>Topics discussed: </p>

<ul>
<li>Herbalism and plants/fungi as ancestors </li>
<li>Astrology </li>
<li>Sovereignty </li>
<li>Building relationships with other-than-human beings </li>
<li>Identity </li>
<li>Animism </li>
</ul>

<p>Sean is an herbalist, writer, poet, teacher, and initiated priest in two traditions, and his work with plants and fungi weaves together traditional western herbalism, contemporary science, Irish and Nordic animism, and his own lived experience.</p><p>Special Guest: Seán Pádraig O&#39;Donoghue.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Otherworld Well" rel="nofollow" href="https://otherworldwell.com/">Otherworld Well</a></li><li><a title="Sean Padraig O&#39;Donoghue: books, biography" rel="nofollow" href="https://amzn.to/3NwzT3k">Sean Padraig O'Donoghue: books, biography</a></li><li><a title="Facebook - Seán Pádraig O&#39;Donoghue" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.facebook.com/greenmansean">Facebook - Seán Pádraig O'Donoghue</a></li><li><a title="Talking Animist Herbalism with Seán Pádraig O’Donoghue – Rune Soup" rel="nofollow" href="https://runesoup.com/2021/10/talking-animist-herbalism-with-sean-padraig-odonoghue/">Talking Animist Herbalism with Seán Pádraig O’Donoghue – Rune Soup</a></li><li><a title="Podcast: Election Metaphoric Response &amp; Ritual" rel="nofollow" href="https://coyotenetworknews.com/radioshow/election-metaphoric-response-ritual/">Podcast: Election Metaphoric Response &amp; Ritual</a></li><li><a title="Books by Seán Pádraig O&#39;Donoghue – Otherworld Well" rel="nofollow" href="https://otherworldwell.com/pages/books">Books by Seán Pádraig O'Donoghue – Otherworld Well</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Throughout this episode, Seán Pádraig O’Donoghue weaves a wonderful conversation that brings nature alive in our awareness. He sees plants and fungi as our ancestors and kin with their own intelligence, and we delve into the concept of identity and what it means to break the habit of being human. </p>

<p>He speaks of a time when the King was wedded to the land and that the core of our suffering is due to forgetting and the severing of our relationship with it. </p>

<p>Sean shares his insights into animism, where the world is alive, and all beings, including humans, are equal in significance. He suggests that building a relationship with other-than-human beings is vital, and it begins with consistency and spending time with a place in the natural world, or a tree, river, local or plant to develop a relationship. </p>

<p>Sean suggests that dropping the veil is necessary to see beyond certain levels of reality and see’s our consciousness as a variation of the microrisal webs that form the minds of forests and fields, and that in order to reach beyond- reorganization of the brain is necessary.</p>

<p>Take a deep dive into discovering your true self and your connection to the natural world in this episode </p>

<p>Topics discussed: </p>

<ul>
<li>Herbalism and plants/fungi as ancestors </li>
<li>Astrology </li>
<li>Sovereignty </li>
<li>Building relationships with other-than-human beings </li>
<li>Identity </li>
<li>Animism </li>
</ul>

<p>Sean is an herbalist, writer, poet, teacher, and initiated priest in two traditions, and his work with plants and fungi weaves together traditional western herbalism, contemporary science, Irish and Nordic animism, and his own lived experience.</p><p>Special Guest: Seán Pádraig O&#39;Donoghue.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Otherworld Well" rel="nofollow" href="https://otherworldwell.com/">Otherworld Well</a></li><li><a title="Sean Padraig O&#39;Donoghue: books, biography" rel="nofollow" href="https://amzn.to/3NwzT3k">Sean Padraig O'Donoghue: books, biography</a></li><li><a title="Facebook - Seán Pádraig O&#39;Donoghue" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.facebook.com/greenmansean">Facebook - Seán Pádraig O'Donoghue</a></li><li><a title="Talking Animist Herbalism with Seán Pádraig O’Donoghue – Rune Soup" rel="nofollow" href="https://runesoup.com/2021/10/talking-animist-herbalism-with-sean-padraig-odonoghue/">Talking Animist Herbalism with Seán Pádraig O’Donoghue – Rune Soup</a></li><li><a title="Podcast: Election Metaphoric Response &amp; Ritual" rel="nofollow" href="https://coyotenetworknews.com/radioshow/election-metaphoric-response-ritual/">Podcast: Election Metaphoric Response &amp; Ritual</a></li><li><a title="Books by Seán Pádraig O&#39;Donoghue – Otherworld Well" rel="nofollow" href="https://otherworldwell.com/pages/books">Books by Seán Pádraig O'Donoghue – Otherworld Well</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 31: Margaret Klein Salamon - Facing Climate Fears</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode Monica insterviews Margaret Klein Salamon.  Margaret is a clinical psychologist turned climate warrior - she is the founder and executive director of the Climate Mobilization.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>48:30</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Margaret Klein Salamon, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist turned climate warrior whose work helps people to face the deeply frightening and painful truths of the climate emergency and to transform their despair into effective action. She is the founder and executive director of The Climate Mobilization (https://www.theclimatemobilization.org), which advocates an all-hands-on-deck, whole society mobilization to protect humanity and the living world from climate catastrophe. Her book, Facing the Climate Emergency: How to Transform Yourself with Climate Truth, is a radical self-help guide for the climate emergency (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0865719411/revelationpro-20).
I heard about Margaret through Humanity Rising (https://humanityrising.org) and reached out for an interview when I heard her talk about the emotional disconnect we humans have in facing the climate crisis. I became deeply curious about the root cause of this and wanted to dive more deeply into revealing the answers.
When I read her book, I was struck by one of the first paragraphs: 
“Inside all of us, a battle rages. It’s the battle between knowing and not knowing, between fully facing the truth — emotionally, as well as intellectually — and shrinking from it. We sense we’re in a climate emergency and mass extinction event, but we have a deep-seated psychological instinct to defend against that knowledge. The pain is shouting at us: “Everything is dying!” Somewhere inside, we know that humanity and the natural world are in peril. Indeed, we feel the horrors of civilizational collapse and the sixth mass extinction of species, in our bodies. Our minds attempt to shield us from this pain — we avoid, distract, deny, and numb ourselves. But these defenses work only temporarily: When we fail to process our emotions and mourn our losses, the pain takes on tremendous power. It follows us around like a shadow, and we become increasingly desperate to avoid what we know.”
I often talk about our social training ground and our society’s obsession with avoiding our emotions. I’m struck by the parallels between our stunted ability to process our suppressed emotion and our inability to truly feel what’s happening to our planet. 
But I love Margaret’s attitude in this excerpt: 
“We — humanity — are putting together a team of heroes to cancel the apocalypse, to protect ourselves and the natural world from catastrophic collapse. You might not realize it, but you are on the roster. Your jersey is sitting in your locker. We need to figure out your position and get you into (emotional) shape. The first step is to show up to practice. We are waiting for you.”
In Facing The Climate Crisis, Margaret also surfaces the teachings of Fromm, who postulated that the only reason people would not rise against the possibility of worldwide nuclear destruction was that they were already experiencing devastating destruction, internally.  This validates my deeper knowing around our own unconscious self-loathing - the idea that it is unconscious makes me even more motivated to help us realize that the very symptoms we think are normal are actually not, and are, in fact, unhealthy and very destructive. 
There are so many symptoms of self-loathing. The very idea that any of us would not feel a measure of panic and deep grief at the reality we are facing is in itself a testament to how disconnected from our true nature we are. It also shows a deep disconnect from love and respect for ourselves and for others. 
Margaret shares the bottom line: 
“To solve the climate and ecological emergency, we must transform our destructive economy into a regenerative one, and we must do it at emergency speed. We don’t just need zero emissions in every sector; we need huge carbon drawdown projects that restore ecosystems and the soil. We need permaculture and food localization; we need an end to mass consumerism and endless growth; we need to give back half the Earth to nature to restore biodiversity, and we need to create a society based on protecting and healing humanity and the natural world. This means transforming not only our energy, agricultural, transportation, and industrial systems — it means transforming ourselves” 
I would add that the path to transforming ourselves is the path inward to loving ourselves. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Margaret Klein Salamon, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist turned climate warrior whose work helps people to face the deeply frightening and painful truths of the climate emergency and to transform their despair into effective action. She is the founder and executive director of <a href="https://www.theclimatemobilization.org" rel="nofollow">The Climate Mobilization</a>, which advocates an all-hands-on-deck, whole society mobilization to protect humanity and the living world from climate catastrophe. Her book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0865719411/revelationpro-20" rel="nofollow">Facing the Climate Emergency: How to Transform Yourself with Climate Truth, is a radical self-help guide for the climate emergency</a>.</p>

<p>I heard about Margaret through <a href="https://humanityrising.org" rel="nofollow">Humanity Rising</a> and reached out for an interview when I heard her talk about the emotional disconnect we humans have in facing the climate crisis. I became deeply curious about the root cause of this and wanted to dive more deeply into revealing the answers.</p>

<p>When I read her book, I was struck by one of the first paragraphs: </p>

<blockquote>
<p>“Inside all of us, a battle rages. It’s the battle between knowing and not knowing, between fully facing the truth — emotionally, as well as intellectually — and shrinking from it. We sense we’re in a climate emergency and mass extinction event, but we have a deep-seated psychological instinct to defend against that knowledge. The pain is shouting at us: “Everything is dying!” Somewhere inside, we know that humanity and the natural world are in peril. Indeed, we feel the horrors of civilizational collapse and the sixth mass extinction of species, in our bodies. Our minds attempt to shield us from this pain — we avoid, distract, deny, and numb ourselves. But these defenses work only temporarily: When we fail to process our emotions and mourn our losses, the pain takes on tremendous power. It follows us around like a shadow, and we become increasingly desperate to avoid what we know.”</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I often talk about our social training ground and our society’s obsession with avoiding our emotions. I’m struck by the parallels between our stunted ability to process our suppressed emotion and our inability to truly feel what’s happening to our planet. </p>

<p>But I love Margaret’s attitude in this excerpt: </p>

<blockquote>
<p>“We — humanity — are putting together a team of heroes to cancel the apocalypse, to protect ourselves and the natural world from catastrophic collapse. You might not realize it, but you are on the roster. Your jersey is sitting in your locker. We need to figure out your position and get you into (emotional) shape. The first step is to show up to practice. We are waiting for you.”</p>
</blockquote>

<p>In Facing The Climate Crisis, Margaret also surfaces the teachings of Fromm, who postulated that the only reason people would not rise against the possibility of worldwide nuclear destruction was that they were already experiencing devastating destruction, internally.  This validates my deeper knowing around our own unconscious self-loathing - the idea that it is unconscious makes me even more motivated to help us realize that the very symptoms we think are normal are actually not, and are, in fact, unhealthy and very destructive. </p>

<p>There are so many symptoms of self-loathing. The very idea that any of us would not feel a measure of panic and deep grief at the reality we are facing is in itself a testament to how disconnected from our true nature we are. It also shows a deep disconnect from love and respect for ourselves and for others. </p>

<p>Margaret shares the bottom line: </p>

<blockquote>
<p>“To solve the climate and ecological emergency, we must transform our destructive economy into a regenerative one, and we must do it at emergency speed. We don’t just need zero emissions in every sector; we need huge carbon drawdown projects that restore ecosystems and the soil. We need permaculture and food localization; we need an end to mass consumerism and endless growth; we need to give back half the Earth to nature to restore biodiversity, and we need to create a society based on protecting and healing humanity and the natural world. This means transforming not only our energy, agricultural, transportation, and industrial systems — it means transforming ourselves” </p>
</blockquote>

<p>I would add that the path to transforming ourselves is the path inward to loving ourselves. </p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Book: Facing the Climate Emergency: How to Transform Yourself with Climate Truth: Margare Klein Salamon, Molly Gage " rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0865719411/revelationpro-20">Book: Facing the Climate Emergency: How to Transform Yourself with Climate Truth: Margare Klein Salamon, Molly Gage </a></li><li><a title="Two Coves Farm" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.twocovesfarm.com/">Two Coves Farm</a></li><li><a title="Book: A Language Older Than Words: Derrick Jensen" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1931498555/revelationpro-20">Book: A Language Older Than Words: Derrick Jensen</a></li><li><a title="Book: The Culture of Make Believe - Kindle edition by Derrick Jensen. Kindle eBooks" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B005JZGYAQ/revelationpro-20">Book: The Culture of Make Believe - Kindle edition by Derrick Jensen. Kindle eBooks</a></li><li><a title="Book: The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming: David Wallace-Wells" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0525576711/revelationpro-20">Book: The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming: David Wallace-Wells</a></li><li><a title="Paper: Could Food Shortages Bring Down Civilazation" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.earth-policy.org/images/uploads/press_room/SciAm-final.pdf">Paper: Could Food Shortages Bring Down Civilazation</a></li><li><a title="Book: No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II, Doris Kearns Goodwin" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684804484/revelationpro-20">Book: No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II, Doris Kearns Goodwin</a></li><li><a title="Book: The Art of Loving: Erich Fromm" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0061129739/revelationpro-20">Book: The Art of Loving: Erich Fromm</a></li><li><a title="Book: The Art of Loving: Erich Fromm" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0061129739/revelationpro-20">Book: The Art of Loving: Erich Fromm</a></li><li><a title="Twitter: Margaret Klein Salamon (@ClimatePsych)" rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/ClimatePsych">Twitter: Margaret Klein Salamon (@ClimatePsych)</a></li><li><a title="Website: Facing the Climate Emergency" rel="nofollow" href="https://facingtheclimateemergency.com/">Website: Facing the Climate Emergency</a></li><li><a title="Website: The Climate Mobilization" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.theclimatemobilization.org/">Website: The Climate Mobilization</a></li><li><a title="Website: Humanity Rising – What Cause Inspires You?" rel="nofollow" href="https://humanityrising.org/">Website: Humanity Rising – What Cause Inspires You?</a></li><li><a title="Podcast: VOICES Podcast – Humanity Rising" rel="nofollow" href="https://humanityrising.org/voices/">Podcast: VOICES Podcast – Humanity Rising</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Margaret Klein Salamon, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist turned climate warrior whose work helps people to face the deeply frightening and painful truths of the climate emergency and to transform their despair into effective action. She is the founder and executive director of <a href="https://www.theclimatemobilization.org" rel="nofollow">The Climate Mobilization</a>, which advocates an all-hands-on-deck, whole society mobilization to protect humanity and the living world from climate catastrophe. Her book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0865719411/revelationpro-20" rel="nofollow">Facing the Climate Emergency: How to Transform Yourself with Climate Truth, is a radical self-help guide for the climate emergency</a>.</p>

<p>I heard about Margaret through <a href="https://humanityrising.org" rel="nofollow">Humanity Rising</a> and reached out for an interview when I heard her talk about the emotional disconnect we humans have in facing the climate crisis. I became deeply curious about the root cause of this and wanted to dive more deeply into revealing the answers.</p>

<p>When I read her book, I was struck by one of the first paragraphs: </p>

<blockquote>
<p>“Inside all of us, a battle rages. It’s the battle between knowing and not knowing, between fully facing the truth — emotionally, as well as intellectually — and shrinking from it. We sense we’re in a climate emergency and mass extinction event, but we have a deep-seated psychological instinct to defend against that knowledge. The pain is shouting at us: “Everything is dying!” Somewhere inside, we know that humanity and the natural world are in peril. Indeed, we feel the horrors of civilizational collapse and the sixth mass extinction of species, in our bodies. Our minds attempt to shield us from this pain — we avoid, distract, deny, and numb ourselves. But these defenses work only temporarily: When we fail to process our emotions and mourn our losses, the pain takes on tremendous power. It follows us around like a shadow, and we become increasingly desperate to avoid what we know.”</p>
</blockquote>

<p>I often talk about our social training ground and our society’s obsession with avoiding our emotions. I’m struck by the parallels between our stunted ability to process our suppressed emotion and our inability to truly feel what’s happening to our planet. </p>

<p>But I love Margaret’s attitude in this excerpt: </p>

<blockquote>
<p>“We — humanity — are putting together a team of heroes to cancel the apocalypse, to protect ourselves and the natural world from catastrophic collapse. You might not realize it, but you are on the roster. Your jersey is sitting in your locker. We need to figure out your position and get you into (emotional) shape. The first step is to show up to practice. We are waiting for you.”</p>
</blockquote>

<p>In Facing The Climate Crisis, Margaret also surfaces the teachings of Fromm, who postulated that the only reason people would not rise against the possibility of worldwide nuclear destruction was that they were already experiencing devastating destruction, internally.  This validates my deeper knowing around our own unconscious self-loathing - the idea that it is unconscious makes me even more motivated to help us realize that the very symptoms we think are normal are actually not, and are, in fact, unhealthy and very destructive. </p>

<p>There are so many symptoms of self-loathing. The very idea that any of us would not feel a measure of panic and deep grief at the reality we are facing is in itself a testament to how disconnected from our true nature we are. It also shows a deep disconnect from love and respect for ourselves and for others. </p>

<p>Margaret shares the bottom line: </p>

<blockquote>
<p>“To solve the climate and ecological emergency, we must transform our destructive economy into a regenerative one, and we must do it at emergency speed. We don’t just need zero emissions in every sector; we need huge carbon drawdown projects that restore ecosystems and the soil. We need permaculture and food localization; we need an end to mass consumerism and endless growth; we need to give back half the Earth to nature to restore biodiversity, and we need to create a society based on protecting and healing humanity and the natural world. This means transforming not only our energy, agricultural, transportation, and industrial systems — it means transforming ourselves” </p>
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<p>I would add that the path to transforming ourselves is the path inward to loving ourselves. </p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Book: Facing the Climate Emergency: How to Transform Yourself with Climate Truth: Margare Klein Salamon, Molly Gage " rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0865719411/revelationpro-20">Book: Facing the Climate Emergency: How to Transform Yourself with Climate Truth: Margare Klein Salamon, Molly Gage </a></li><li><a title="Two Coves Farm" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.twocovesfarm.com/">Two Coves Farm</a></li><li><a title="Book: A Language Older Than Words: Derrick Jensen" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1931498555/revelationpro-20">Book: A Language Older Than Words: Derrick Jensen</a></li><li><a title="Book: The Culture of Make Believe - Kindle edition by Derrick Jensen. Kindle eBooks" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B005JZGYAQ/revelationpro-20">Book: The Culture of Make Believe - Kindle edition by Derrick Jensen. Kindle eBooks</a></li><li><a title="Book: The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming: David Wallace-Wells" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0525576711/revelationpro-20">Book: The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming: David Wallace-Wells</a></li><li><a title="Paper: Could Food Shortages Bring Down Civilazation" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.earth-policy.org/images/uploads/press_room/SciAm-final.pdf">Paper: Could Food Shortages Bring Down Civilazation</a></li><li><a title="Book: No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II, Doris Kearns Goodwin" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684804484/revelationpro-20">Book: No Ordinary Time: Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt: The Home Front in World War II, Doris Kearns Goodwin</a></li><li><a title="Book: The Art of Loving: Erich Fromm" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0061129739/revelationpro-20">Book: The Art of Loving: Erich Fromm</a></li><li><a title="Book: The Art of Loving: Erich Fromm" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0061129739/revelationpro-20">Book: The Art of Loving: Erich Fromm</a></li><li><a title="Twitter: Margaret Klein Salamon (@ClimatePsych)" rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/ClimatePsych">Twitter: Margaret Klein Salamon (@ClimatePsych)</a></li><li><a title="Website: Facing the Climate Emergency" rel="nofollow" href="https://facingtheclimateemergency.com/">Website: Facing the Climate Emergency</a></li><li><a title="Website: The Climate Mobilization" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.theclimatemobilization.org/">Website: The Climate Mobilization</a></li><li><a title="Website: Humanity Rising – What Cause Inspires You?" rel="nofollow" href="https://humanityrising.org/">Website: Humanity Rising – What Cause Inspires You?</a></li><li><a title="Podcast: VOICES Podcast – Humanity Rising" rel="nofollow" href="https://humanityrising.org/voices/">Podcast: VOICES Podcast – Humanity Rising</a></li></ul>]]>
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