web01.fireside.fm Sun, 05 Apr 2026 12:20:58 -0500 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) The Revelation Project - Episodes Tagged with “Selfdiscovery” https://revelationproject.fireside.fm/tags/selfdiscovery Wed, 13 Dec 2023 00:00:00 -0500 The Revelation Project is an individual and holistic movement that disrupts the trance of unworthiness and lifts the veils of personal illusion and cultural deception that keep us from remembering our divinity and inherent wholeness. The Revelation Project Podcast explores alternative narratives to traditional patriarchal influences that awaken, liberate and activate awareness. Join us to investigate vulnerable and courageous topics that reveal more magic, wonder, and beauty than we ever thought possible. Life is a revelation, and what gets revealed gets healed. en episodic Life is a Revelation Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC The Revelation Project is an individual and holistic movement that disrupts the trance of unworthiness and lifts the veils of personal illusion and cultural deception that keep us from remembering our divinity and inherent wholeness. The Revelation Project Podcast explores alternative narratives to traditional patriarchal influences that awaken, liberate and activate awareness. Join us to investigate vulnerable and courageous topics that reveal more magic, wonder, and beauty than we ever thought possible. Life is a revelation, and what gets revealed gets healed. no Goddess, Sacred Feminine, Awakening, Healing, embodiment, Sacred Masculine, Feminine Leadership, Erotic Power, Archetypes, Gnosis, Mother Wound, Patriarchy, Awakening, Divine Feminine Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC rodgers107@me.com Episode 192: Oren Jay Sofer - Your Heart Was Made for This: Contemplative Practices to Meet a World In Crisis with Courage, Integrity, and Love https://revelationproject.fireside.fm/192 23ebdbb2-eb4c-4360-a1bc-a9cbdec45fd5 Wed, 13 Dec 2023 00:00:00 -0500 Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC full Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC In this episode, Monica is joined by Oren Jay Sofer, a renowned meditation teacher and author of "Say What You Mean" and his latest book, "Your Heart Was Made for This." They dive into a conversation about navigating the world in crisis with courage, integrity, and love. 1:01:11 no Perhaps upon first glance, when the terror of the world is breathing down our necks, we refuse to see how capable we are of meeting it. Perhaps we think, our hearts were not made to contend with the immensity of what’s happening- the chaos the sensory input, the imminent threat of climate change, or the video footage of the atrocities happening around the world in Israel and beyond. And yet, we are equipped with an incredible potential for compassion and resilience - to grow and learn from challenge, and to biologically, neurologically, and spiritually, adapt and change to meet the times we are living in. My Guest, Oren Jay Sofer, believes that every one of us can transform and grow, even in the midst of the heartbreak. In his new book Your Heart Was Made for This: Contemplative Practices for Meeting a World in Crisis with Courage, Integrity, and Love , Oren reveals how we can tap into our full capacity for peace and goodness by cultivating a practice day by day with tiny steps and many other revelations for living in this time of extreme chaos and change. "I like to think of the human organism as an instrument," he says. "And this whole journey I invite readers on is about how well you know how to play your instrument. Can you hit the notes of compassion and joy and generosity and gratitude and energy and integrity?” In this episode he walks us through where to start exploring the amazing capacities that we have as human beings- not as a blueprint but to develop the resources inside so that we can each play the role we're uniquely called to play. Key points discussed in this episode include: * The importance of keeping our hearts open during painful and uncertain times * The inspiration behind Oren's latest book, Your Heart Was Made for This * An exploration of contemplative practice and its role in reflecting upon meaning and purpose in life * Various forms that contemplative practice can take for diverse individuals * The healing power of letting go, and the practice of renunciation * The interconnection between inner personal transformation and larger societal changes * The critical role of forgiveness in finding inner peace and restoration Oren Jay Sofer teaches meditation and communication internationally. He holds a degree in comparative religion from Columbia University and is a Certified Trainer of Nonviolent Communication. He's also the author of several books, including the best-seller Say What You Mean: A Mindful Approach to Nonviolent Communication and his latest book, Your Heart Was Made for This: Contemplative Practices to Meet a World In Crisis with Courage, Integrity, and Love. A husband and a father, Oren lives in the San Francisco Bay Area, where he enjoys cooking, spending time in nature, and home woodworking projects. Special Guest: Oren Jay Sofer. connection,consciousness,courage,education,feminine,healing,health,inspiration,love,revelation,selfhelp,selflove,spirituality,vulnerability,women Perhaps upon first glance, when the terror of the world is breathing down our necks, we refuse to see how capable we are of meeting it. Perhaps we think, our hearts were not made to contend with the immensity of what’s happening- the chaos the sensory input, the imminent threat of climate change, or the video footage of the atrocities happening around the world in Israel and beyond.

And yet, we are equipped with an incredible potential for compassion and resilience - to grow and learn from challenge, and to biologically, neurologically, and spiritually, adapt and change to meet the times we are living in.

My Guest, Oren Jay Sofer, believes that every one of us can transform and grow, even in the midst of the heartbreak.

In his new book Your Heart Was Made for This: Contemplative Practices for Meeting a World in Crisis with Courage, Integrity, and Love , Oren reveals how we can tap into our full capacity for peace and goodness by cultivating a practice day by day with tiny steps and many other revelations for living in this time of extreme chaos and change.

"I like to think of the human organism as an instrument," he says. "And this whole journey I invite readers on is about how well you know how to play your instrument. Can you hit the notes of compassion and joy and generosity and gratitude and energy and integrity?” In this episode he walks us through where to start exploring the amazing capacities that we have as human beings- not as a blueprint but to develop the resources inside so that we can each play the role we're uniquely called to play.

Key points discussed in this episode include:

  • The importance of keeping our hearts open during painful and uncertain times
  • The inspiration behind Oren's latest book, Your Heart Was Made for This
  • An exploration of contemplative practice and its role in reflecting upon meaning and purpose in life
  • Various forms that contemplative practice can take for diverse individuals
  • The healing power of letting go, and the practice of renunciation
  • The interconnection between inner personal transformation and larger societal changes
  • The critical role of forgiveness in finding inner peace and restoration

Oren Jay Sofer teaches meditation and communication internationally. He holds a degree in comparative religion from Columbia University and is a Certified Trainer of Nonviolent Communication. He's also the author of several books, including the best-seller Say What You Mean: A Mindful Approach to Nonviolent Communication and his latest book, Your Heart Was Made for This: Contemplative Practices to Meet a World In Crisis with Courage, Integrity, and Love. A husband and a father, Oren lives in the San Francisco Bay Area, where he enjoys cooking, spending time in nature, and home woodworking projects.

Special Guest: Oren Jay Sofer.

Sponsored By:

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]]> Perhaps upon first glance, when the terror of the world is breathing down our necks, we refuse to see how capable we are of meeting it. Perhaps we think, our hearts were not made to contend with the immensity of what’s happening- the chaos the sensory input, the imminent threat of climate change, or the video footage of the atrocities happening around the world in Israel and beyond.

And yet, we are equipped with an incredible potential for compassion and resilience - to grow and learn from challenge, and to biologically, neurologically, and spiritually, adapt and change to meet the times we are living in.

My Guest, Oren Jay Sofer, believes that every one of us can transform and grow, even in the midst of the heartbreak.

In his new book Your Heart Was Made for This: Contemplative Practices for Meeting a World in Crisis with Courage, Integrity, and Love , Oren reveals how we can tap into our full capacity for peace and goodness by cultivating a practice day by day with tiny steps and many other revelations for living in this time of extreme chaos and change.

"I like to think of the human organism as an instrument," he says. "And this whole journey I invite readers on is about how well you know how to play your instrument. Can you hit the notes of compassion and joy and generosity and gratitude and energy and integrity?” In this episode he walks us through where to start exploring the amazing capacities that we have as human beings- not as a blueprint but to develop the resources inside so that we can each play the role we're uniquely called to play.

Key points discussed in this episode include:

  • The importance of keeping our hearts open during painful and uncertain times
  • The inspiration behind Oren's latest book, Your Heart Was Made for This
  • An exploration of contemplative practice and its role in reflecting upon meaning and purpose in life
  • Various forms that contemplative practice can take for diverse individuals
  • The healing power of letting go, and the practice of renunciation
  • The interconnection between inner personal transformation and larger societal changes
  • The critical role of forgiveness in finding inner peace and restoration

Oren Jay Sofer teaches meditation and communication internationally. He holds a degree in comparative religion from Columbia University and is a Certified Trainer of Nonviolent Communication. He's also the author of several books, including the best-seller Say What You Mean: A Mindful Approach to Nonviolent Communication and his latest book, Your Heart Was Made for This: Contemplative Practices to Meet a World In Crisis with Courage, Integrity, and Love. A husband and a father, Oren lives in the San Francisco Bay Area, where he enjoys cooking, spending time in nature, and home woodworking projects.

Special Guest: Oren Jay Sofer.

Sponsored By:

Links:

]]> Episode 190: Glynda-Lee Hoffmann - The Secret Dowry of Eve: The Hidden Treasure of the Feminine Revealed https://revelationproject.fireside.fm/190 18da8f62-f163-437d-8860-0705e9d16392 Wed, 22 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0500 Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC full Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC In this episode of the Revelation Project podcast, host Monica is joined by author Glynda-Lee Lee Hoffman, who discusses the Genesis story and its hidden meanings. 1:28:57 no <p>The real revelation came when Glynda-Lee Hoffmann started studying the Hebrew letters of the Qabalah,their patterns of energy and the profound messages they hold for us. In a moment of awe, she discovered the explosive birth of the universe encoded within the Genesis story that exposes an incredible secret about the role of Women in our human story. </p> <p>The Qabalah is known as “the language of light” or as some say ”a language for the revelation of the divine light” which reveals to us a much different interpretation of the human story as told in Genesis. </p> <p>Now, before you jump to any conclusions about the relevancy of the ancient story of Genesis in todays “modern times” let me assure you that this particular message is right on time with what’s happening in the world, and is actually profoundly hopeful and inspiring!</p> <p>My guest, Glynda- Lee Hoffmann’s remarkable work plays like a detective story through ciphers, clues, ancient mythology and quantum science! If you’d ever listened to Jill Bolte Taylors Ted Talk called “My Stroke of Insight” then you know how profoundly inspiring her message has been as one of the most popular TED talks ever recorded! Imagine then, making a discovery about the “feminine” part of the human brain and where we are now in our human evolution that takes Jill’s Bolte Taylors “stroke of insight” even further into new territories that expand our understanding about the potential and possibility of where we are headed.</p> <p>As far as Glynda and her incredible discoveries are concerned, we are at the Apex of what she insists up until now we have been in “the 7th day of creation” bringing us right to the precipice and potential timely portal into the New World! Will our primal brains, and our dominant masculine aspects keep us in lower functioning neural patterning leading to our inevitable self destruction, or will we actually transcend our limited way of seeing the world and our place in it as the feminine aspects of the brain comes online so that we can cross over the threshold into the New Earth?<br> Tune in to find out more in this incredible episode with Glynda- Lee Hoffman author of The Secret Dowry Of Eve: Women’s Role in Developmental Consciousness. Prepare to be amazed by what she shares about our potential fruition as the feminine (or angelic) aspect of our brains begin to blossom! </p> Topics covered: Glynda-Lee’s work challenges the traditional narrative of Eve's subservience and offers a fresh perspective on her role in the Genesis story Glynda-Lee dives deep into her lifelong study of Kabbalah Combined with scientific knowledge she unveils the true significance of Eve's contribution to our transcendence and wholeness. Learn how it's Eve's inner world, the feminine awareness within us, that completes and empowers us as humans. Unlock the hidden secrets of the feminine and the incredible fertility of our universe. Unravel the hidden symbolism within Genesis, Kabbalah/ Quabalah and fairy tales Explore the connection between feminine energy, personal growth, and the path to a more nurturing culture. Transform your perspective to a whole new understanding of Eve's role in human consciousness as the Hero of our Human story. Glynda-Lee shares a transformative experience that unveils the secret of the universe's inception Understanding the role of the prefrontal cortex in personal and social growth (Where we are now!) We examine and challenge patriarchal viewpoints and emphasize feminine empowerment through the lens of the Qabalah The significance of the number seven in biblical contexts. The integration of feminine and masculine aspects of human awareness and how they are interdependent Storytelling as a potent tool for communication and change. Special Guest: Glynda-Lee Hoffman. connection, consciousness, courage, education, divine feminine, healing, health, inspiration, love, revelation, selfhelp, selflove, spirituality, vulnerability, women The real revelation came when Glynda-Lee Hoffmann started studying the Hebrew letters of the Qabalah,their patterns of energy and the profound messages they hold for us. In a moment of awe, she discovered the explosive birth of the universe encoded within the Genesis story that exposes an incredible secret about the role of Women in our human story.

The Qabalah is known as “the language of light” or as some say ”a language for the revelation of the divine light” which reveals to us a much different interpretation of the human story as told in Genesis.

Now, before you jump to any conclusions about the relevancy of the ancient story of Genesis in todays “modern times” let me assure you that this particular message is right on time with what’s happening in the world, and is actually profoundly hopeful and inspiring!

My guest, Glynda- Lee Hoffmann’s remarkable work plays like a detective story through ciphers, clues, ancient mythology and quantum science! If you’d ever listened to Jill Bolte Taylors Ted Talk called “My Stroke of Insight” then you know how profoundly inspiring her message has been as one of the most popular TED talks ever recorded! Imagine then, making a discovery about the “feminine” part of the human brain and where we are now in our human evolution that takes Jill’s Bolte Taylors “stroke of insight” even further into new territories that expand our understanding about the potential and possibility of where we are headed.

As far as Glynda and her incredible discoveries are concerned, we are at the Apex of what she insists up until now we have been in “the 7th day of creation” bringing us right to the precipice and potential timely portal into the New World! Will our primal brains, and our dominant masculine aspects keep us in lower functioning neural patterning leading to our inevitable self destruction, or will we actually transcend our limited way of seeing the world and our place in it as the feminine aspects of the brain comes online so that we can cross over the threshold into the New Earth?
Tune in to find out more in this incredible episode with Glynda- Lee Hoffman author of The Secret Dowry Of Eve: Women’s Role in Developmental Consciousness. Prepare to be amazed by what she shares about our potential fruition as the feminine (or angelic) aspect of our brains begin to blossom!

Topics covered:

  • Glynda-Lee’s work challenges the traditional narrative of Eve's subservience and offers a fresh perspective on her role in the Genesis story
  • Glynda-Lee dives deep into her lifelong study of Kabbalah
  • Combined with scientific knowledge she unveils the true significance of Eve's contribution to our transcendence and wholeness.
  • Learn how it's Eve's inner world, the feminine awareness within us, that completes and empowers us as humans.
  • Unlock the hidden secrets of the feminine and the incredible fertility of our universe.
  • Unravel the hidden symbolism within Genesis, Kabbalah/ Quabalah and fairy tales
  • Explore the connection between feminine energy, personal growth, and the path to a more nurturing culture.
  • Transform your perspective to a whole new understanding of Eve's role in human consciousness as the Hero of our Human story.
  • Glynda-Lee shares a transformative experience that unveils the secret of the universe's inception
  • Understanding the role of the prefrontal cortex in personal and social growth (Where we are now!)
  • We examine and challenge patriarchal viewpoints and emphasize feminine empowerment through the lens of the Qabalah
  • The significance of the number seven in biblical contexts.
  • The integration of feminine and masculine aspects of human awareness and how they are interdependent
  • Storytelling as a potent tool for communication and change.

Special Guest: Glynda-Lee Hoffman.

Links:

]]> The real revelation came when Glynda-Lee Hoffmann started studying the Hebrew letters of the Qabalah,their patterns of energy and the profound messages they hold for us. In a moment of awe, she discovered the explosive birth of the universe encoded within the Genesis story that exposes an incredible secret about the role of Women in our human story.

The Qabalah is known as “the language of light” or as some say ”a language for the revelation of the divine light” which reveals to us a much different interpretation of the human story as told in Genesis.

Now, before you jump to any conclusions about the relevancy of the ancient story of Genesis in todays “modern times” let me assure you that this particular message is right on time with what’s happening in the world, and is actually profoundly hopeful and inspiring!

My guest, Glynda- Lee Hoffmann’s remarkable work plays like a detective story through ciphers, clues, ancient mythology and quantum science! If you’d ever listened to Jill Bolte Taylors Ted Talk called “My Stroke of Insight” then you know how profoundly inspiring her message has been as one of the most popular TED talks ever recorded! Imagine then, making a discovery about the “feminine” part of the human brain and where we are now in our human evolution that takes Jill’s Bolte Taylors “stroke of insight” even further into new territories that expand our understanding about the potential and possibility of where we are headed.

As far as Glynda and her incredible discoveries are concerned, we are at the Apex of what she insists up until now we have been in “the 7th day of creation” bringing us right to the precipice and potential timely portal into the New World! Will our primal brains, and our dominant masculine aspects keep us in lower functioning neural patterning leading to our inevitable self destruction, or will we actually transcend our limited way of seeing the world and our place in it as the feminine aspects of the brain comes online so that we can cross over the threshold into the New Earth?
Tune in to find out more in this incredible episode with Glynda- Lee Hoffman author of The Secret Dowry Of Eve: Women’s Role in Developmental Consciousness. Prepare to be amazed by what she shares about our potential fruition as the feminine (or angelic) aspect of our brains begin to blossom!

Topics covered:

  • Glynda-Lee’s work challenges the traditional narrative of Eve's subservience and offers a fresh perspective on her role in the Genesis story
  • Glynda-Lee dives deep into her lifelong study of Kabbalah
  • Combined with scientific knowledge she unveils the true significance of Eve's contribution to our transcendence and wholeness.
  • Learn how it's Eve's inner world, the feminine awareness within us, that completes and empowers us as humans.
  • Unlock the hidden secrets of the feminine and the incredible fertility of our universe.
  • Unravel the hidden symbolism within Genesis, Kabbalah/ Quabalah and fairy tales
  • Explore the connection between feminine energy, personal growth, and the path to a more nurturing culture.
  • Transform your perspective to a whole new understanding of Eve's role in human consciousness as the Hero of our Human story.
  • Glynda-Lee shares a transformative experience that unveils the secret of the universe's inception
  • Understanding the role of the prefrontal cortex in personal and social growth (Where we are now!)
  • We examine and challenge patriarchal viewpoints and emphasize feminine empowerment through the lens of the Qabalah
  • The significance of the number seven in biblical contexts.
  • The integration of feminine and masculine aspects of human awareness and how they are interdependent
  • Storytelling as a potent tool for communication and change.

Special Guest: Glynda-Lee Hoffman.

Links:

]]> Episode 189: Celene Lillie - The Thunder Perfect Mind: Defying Conventional Gender Rules to Embrace Union & Divinity https://revelationproject.fireside.fm/189 a834c250-2152-4c07-afa5-834dccaf9d35 Wed, 08 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0500 Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC full Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC Host Monica Rogers and returning guest Celene Lillie engage in a deep conversation around the message behind "The Thunder Perfect Mind" and discuss vast topics, including mindfulness, scriptural receptiveness, gender fluidity in the ancient text, alchemy, and the concept of divine interconnection. 1:25:38 yes What would it mean if the voice of God were a woman? Many of you are familiar with my beloved returning guest and Scholar, Dr. Celene Lillie, from our episode together about her book The Rape of Eve an episode that continues to be one of my most popular. Today she joins me for an inspiring, evocative, gender-bending, and ever-twisting exploration of an ancient text known as The Thunder Perfect Mind, the self-portrait of a divine feminine being. In this episode we discuss this ancient text which sustains itself for some nine pages of papyrus - sometimes commanding the scene like a goddess, other times disdained and thrown down in the dirt, she keeps challenging those around her. Still other times, she shape-shifts into a masculine form or intentionally contradicts conventional expectations of her previous utterance. Like many other important ancient scripts, The Thunder: Perfect Mind was discovered in rural Egypt, where the dry air inhibits decay of ancient material. Thunder belongs to the increasingly famous Nag Hammadi collection of what appear to be mostly early Christian documents, all found in the same jar in the hills above the Nile. It is likely that the Nag Hammadi documents had been collected by an early desert monastic community. Found in the mid-twentieth century and translated within several decades afterward, these documents were initially published in English in 1977, but only accessible to the general public within the last generation. Thunder was one of 52 Nag Hammadi documents. Thunder has nevertheless already distinguished itself in public consciousness and has captured the imaginations of many. It stands vigil at the beginning of award-winning novelist Toni Morrison’s works Jazz and Paradise. Umberto Eco also cited it in his novel Foucault’s Pendulum. Julie Dash’s award-winning 1991 feature film, Daughters of the Dust, opens with a long citation fromThunder. Its text also anchors a 2005 film by Jordon and Ridley Scott, whose shortened version has appeared widely as a commercial for Prada women’s fashions. More in this episode: Why you can not utter the name of God in Hebrew and how it can be spoken through the breath Learn how women once occupied a huge range of possibilities before patriarchal rule Hear the deeper meanings of THUNDER and why these texts have been considered “seminal” Learn why this piece pushes against our contemporary notions of what is possible and inspires our imaginations Why the word “occupy” can be so problematic and how we can bring more nuance to our understanding of embodiment How the poem THE THUNDER PERFECT MIND invites us to claim all of our “stuff” and be with the messiness of our lives without being diminished by them How Human Design and The Gene Keys give us freedom from being “all things to all people” Why The Thunder Perfect Mind is medicine for what is happening in the world at this time Celene Lillie is Lecturer in Religious Studies at the University of Colorado Boulder; an Adjunct Professor at the University of Oklahoma and The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology; and the Dean of the Westar Institute's forthcoming Academy (launching this Fall). Her scholarly work focuses the New Testament, the Nag Hammadi Codices, and other early literature of the Jesus movement, with a particular interest in gender and violence. She is the author of The Rape of Eve: The Transformation of Roman Ideology in Three Early Retellings of Genesis; co-author (with Jaeda Calloway, Maia Kotrosits, Justin Lasser, and Hal Taussig) of The Thunder: Perfect Mind: A New Translation and Introduction; and Director of Translations for A New New Testament (edited by Hal Taussig). If I were to name one connected specifically to my work, I'm interested in bringing forth voices that are typically marginalized or hidden in early Christian literature. Special Guest: Celene Lillie. connection,consciousness,courage,education,feminine,healing,health,inspiration,love,revelation,selfhelp,selflove,spirituality,vulnerability,women What would it mean if the voice of God were a woman?

Many of you are familiar with my beloved returning guest and Scholar, Dr. Celene Lillie, from our episode together about her book The Rape of Eve an episode that continues to be one of my most popular.

Today she joins me for an inspiring, evocative, gender-bending, and ever-twisting exploration of an ancient text known as The Thunder Perfect Mind, the self-portrait of a divine feminine being.

In this episode we discuss this ancient text which sustains itself for some nine pages of papyrus - sometimes commanding the scene like a goddess, other times disdained and thrown down in the dirt, she keeps challenging those around her. Still other times, she shape-shifts into a masculine form or intentionally contradicts conventional expectations of her previous utterance.

Like many other important ancient scripts, The Thunder: Perfect Mind was discovered in rural Egypt, where the dry air inhibits decay of ancient material. Thunder belongs to the increasingly famous Nag Hammadi collection of what appear to be mostly early Christian documents, all found in the same jar in the hills above the Nile. It is likely that the Nag Hammadi documents had been collected by an early desert monastic community. Found in the mid-twentieth century and translated within several decades afterward, these documents were initially published in English in 1977, but only accessible to the general public within the last generation. Thunder was one of 52 Nag Hammadi documents.

Thunder has nevertheless already distinguished itself in public consciousness and has captured the imaginations of many. It stands vigil at the beginning of award-winning novelist Toni Morrison’s works Jazz and Paradise. Umberto Eco also cited it in his novel Foucault’s Pendulum. Julie Dash’s award-winning 1991 feature film, Daughters of the Dust, opens with a long citation fromThunder. Its text also anchors a 2005 film by Jordon and Ridley Scott, whose shortened version has appeared widely as a commercial for Prada women’s fashions.

More in this episode:

  • Why you can not utter the name of God in Hebrew and how it can be spoken through the breath
  • Learn how women once occupied a huge range of possibilities before patriarchal rule
  • Hear the deeper meanings of THUNDER and why these texts have been considered “seminal”
  • Learn why this piece pushes against our contemporary notions of what is possible and inspires our imaginations
  • Why the word “occupy” can be so problematic and how we can bring more nuance to our understanding of embodiment
  • How the poem THE THUNDER PERFECT MIND invites us to claim all of our “stuff” and be with the messiness of our lives without being diminished by them
  • How Human Design and The Gene Keys give us freedom from being “all things to all people”
  • Why The Thunder Perfect Mind is medicine for what is happening in the world at this time

Celene Lillie is Lecturer in Religious Studies at the University of Colorado Boulder; an Adjunct Professor at the University of Oklahoma and The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology; and the Dean of the Westar Institute's forthcoming Academy (launching this Fall). Her scholarly work focuses the New Testament, the Nag Hammadi Codices, and other early literature of the Jesus movement, with a particular interest in gender and violence. She is the author of The Rape of Eve: The Transformation of Roman Ideology in Three Early Retellings of Genesis; co-author (with Jaeda Calloway, Maia Kotrosits, Justin Lasser, and Hal Taussig) of The Thunder: Perfect Mind: A New Translation and Introduction; and Director of Translations for A New New Testament (edited by Hal Taussig).
If I were to name one connected specifically to my work, I'm interested in bringing forth voices that are typically marginalized or hidden in early Christian literature.

Special Guest: Celene Lillie.

Sponsored By:

Links:

]]> What would it mean if the voice of God were a woman?

Many of you are familiar with my beloved returning guest and Scholar, Dr. Celene Lillie, from our episode together about her book The Rape of Eve an episode that continues to be one of my most popular.

Today she joins me for an inspiring, evocative, gender-bending, and ever-twisting exploration of an ancient text known as The Thunder Perfect Mind, the self-portrait of a divine feminine being.

In this episode we discuss this ancient text which sustains itself for some nine pages of papyrus - sometimes commanding the scene like a goddess, other times disdained and thrown down in the dirt, she keeps challenging those around her. Still other times, she shape-shifts into a masculine form or intentionally contradicts conventional expectations of her previous utterance.

Like many other important ancient scripts, The Thunder: Perfect Mind was discovered in rural Egypt, where the dry air inhibits decay of ancient material. Thunder belongs to the increasingly famous Nag Hammadi collection of what appear to be mostly early Christian documents, all found in the same jar in the hills above the Nile. It is likely that the Nag Hammadi documents had been collected by an early desert monastic community. Found in the mid-twentieth century and translated within several decades afterward, these documents were initially published in English in 1977, but only accessible to the general public within the last generation. Thunder was one of 52 Nag Hammadi documents.

Thunder has nevertheless already distinguished itself in public consciousness and has captured the imaginations of many. It stands vigil at the beginning of award-winning novelist Toni Morrison’s works Jazz and Paradise. Umberto Eco also cited it in his novel Foucault’s Pendulum. Julie Dash’s award-winning 1991 feature film, Daughters of the Dust, opens with a long citation fromThunder. Its text also anchors a 2005 film by Jordon and Ridley Scott, whose shortened version has appeared widely as a commercial for Prada women’s fashions.

More in this episode:

  • Why you can not utter the name of God in Hebrew and how it can be spoken through the breath
  • Learn how women once occupied a huge range of possibilities before patriarchal rule
  • Hear the deeper meanings of THUNDER and why these texts have been considered “seminal”
  • Learn why this piece pushes against our contemporary notions of what is possible and inspires our imaginations
  • Why the word “occupy” can be so problematic and how we can bring more nuance to our understanding of embodiment
  • How the poem THE THUNDER PERFECT MIND invites us to claim all of our “stuff” and be with the messiness of our lives without being diminished by them
  • How Human Design and The Gene Keys give us freedom from being “all things to all people”
  • Why The Thunder Perfect Mind is medicine for what is happening in the world at this time

Celene Lillie is Lecturer in Religious Studies at the University of Colorado Boulder; an Adjunct Professor at the University of Oklahoma and The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology; and the Dean of the Westar Institute's forthcoming Academy (launching this Fall). Her scholarly work focuses the New Testament, the Nag Hammadi Codices, and other early literature of the Jesus movement, with a particular interest in gender and violence. She is the author of The Rape of Eve: The Transformation of Roman Ideology in Three Early Retellings of Genesis; co-author (with Jaeda Calloway, Maia Kotrosits, Justin Lasser, and Hal Taussig) of The Thunder: Perfect Mind: A New Translation and Introduction; and Director of Translations for A New New Testament (edited by Hal Taussig).
If I were to name one connected specifically to my work, I'm interested in bringing forth voices that are typically marginalized or hidden in early Christian literature.

Special Guest: Celene Lillie.

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]]> Episode 177: Bergen Hyde - Losing My Religion: Finding Salvation In The Sacred, Messy, Truth, Of My One Precious Life https://revelationproject.fireside.fm/177 85bcd6cc-d844-419d-b5d3-3794e2ce3bbe Wed, 16 Aug 2023 00:00:00 -0400 Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC full Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC Monica sits down with Bergen Hyde, and together they discuss the journey of undoing, unraveling, and unbecoming, to eventually rebuild and reveal the deepest truth within oneself. 2:08:45 no <p>This episode features my dear friend and returning guest, Bergen Hyde and her personal story of divesting from patriarchal religion.</p> <p>This is a topic I feel is very important because I believe many patriarchal religions are the underpinnings of the trance of unworthiness, keeping many women in positions of servitude and oppression through biblical misinterpretations, scripture and sanctioned abuse. </p> <p>Bergen generously and courageously shares what it’s been like to untangle from her Mormon faith tradition including the heartache and courage as she unpacks years of repression, and even her own complicity in her own indoctrination.</p> <p>We explore various aspects of Mormonism and the practices that were most troubling for her including ideologies, rituals, gender roles, body shame, and the perpetuation of patriarchal norms. </p> <p>We also discuss the intersectionality of patriarchy with racism, fat phobia, homophobia, and transphobia, emphasizing the need to confront internalized oppression and dismantle oppressive systems.</p> <p>We also delve into topics such as feeling spiritually homeless and named the episode "Losing My Religion” after the song by REM, as Bergen reckons with the truth as she highlights the importance of changing transforming her personal narrative to one of empowerment and sovereignty after years of feeling angry and victimized. </p> <p>This is a longer episode than usual because it’s such an important topic that requires more space for reflection- I hope you love it as much as I do. </p> <p>Here’s more of what we cover:</p> <ul> <li>What it means to divest from patriarchy The Damsel in Distress and other patriarchal archetypes/ stereotypes of religious women including piety, goodness, and obedience.</li> <li>How we can develop self-trust, self-love, and how we can redesign a life on our own terms outside of patriarchal religions.</li> <li>The process of reclaiming our identity, and facing fears about hurting loved ones as we disengage.</li> <li>Having the courage to challenge harmful patriarchal systems in general.</li> <li>The crucial role of personal storytelling in our lives and reclaiming authorship of our lives.</li> <li>The power of sisterhood and the importance of witnessing each other.</li> <li>The tricky terrains of patriarchal structures and responsibility,</li> <li>The bitter truth about our complicity in patriarchal systems, and how to break the cycles of harm.</li> <li>Recognizing and taking accountability for our role is the first step towards effecting meaningful change. </li> </ul> and so much more! <p>Bergen Hyde lives in Provo, Utah with her partner and three children. Her favorite things are dancing, salty snacks, spending time in the mountains, and preferably in a body of water. </p> <p>She is the Co-Founder and Creative Director of WOMB, which she founded with her two sisters Jentri and Sarah. The three sisters hold women’s circles, workshops, retreats, and one-on-one mentoring designed to support women in healing internalized patriarchy, integrating the sacred feminine, and reclaiming personal sovereignty.</p> <p>Bergen has been devoted to the sacred feminine and regularly co-partners with Sarah Durham Wilson to facilitate group mentorship through the Wounded Maiden to Mature Feminine Rites of Passage Program.</p> Special Guest: Bergen Hyde. connection,consciousness,courage,education,feminine,healing,health,inspiration,love,revelation,selfhelp,selflove,spirituality,vulnerability,women This episode features my dear friend and returning guest, Bergen Hyde and her personal story of divesting from patriarchal religion.

This is a topic I feel is very important because I believe many patriarchal religions are the underpinnings of the trance of unworthiness, keeping many women in positions of servitude and oppression through biblical misinterpretations, scripture and sanctioned abuse.

Bergen generously and courageously shares what it’s been like to untangle from her Mormon faith tradition including the heartache and courage as she unpacks years of repression, and even her own complicity in her own indoctrination.

We explore various aspects of Mormonism and the practices that were most troubling for her including ideologies, rituals, gender roles, body shame, and the perpetuation of patriarchal norms.

We also discuss the intersectionality of patriarchy with racism, fat phobia, homophobia, and transphobia, emphasizing the need to confront internalized oppression and dismantle oppressive systems.

We also delve into topics such as feeling spiritually homeless and named the episode "Losing My Religion” after the song by REM, as Bergen reckons with the truth as she highlights the importance of changing transforming her personal narrative to one of empowerment and sovereignty after years of feeling angry and victimized.

This is a longer episode than usual because it’s such an important topic that requires more space for reflection- I hope you love it as much as I do.

Here’s more of what we cover:

  • What it means to divest from patriarchy The Damsel in Distress and other patriarchal archetypes/ stereotypes of religious women including piety, goodness, and obedience.
  • How we can develop self-trust, self-love, and how we can redesign a life on our own terms outside of patriarchal religions.
  • The process of reclaiming our identity, and facing fears about hurting loved ones as we disengage.
  • Having the courage to challenge harmful patriarchal systems in general.
  • The crucial role of personal storytelling in our lives and reclaiming authorship of our lives.
  • The power of sisterhood and the importance of witnessing each other.
  • The tricky terrains of patriarchal structures and responsibility,
  • The bitter truth about our complicity in patriarchal systems, and how to break the cycles of harm.
  • Recognizing and taking accountability for our role is the first step towards effecting meaningful change.

and so much more!

Bergen Hyde lives in Provo, Utah with her partner and three children. Her favorite things are dancing, salty snacks, spending time in the mountains, and preferably in a body of water.

She is the Co-Founder and Creative Director of WOMB, which she founded with her two sisters Jentri and Sarah. The three sisters hold women’s circles, workshops, retreats, and one-on-one mentoring designed to support women in healing internalized patriarchy, integrating the sacred feminine, and reclaiming personal sovereignty.

Bergen has been devoted to the sacred feminine and regularly co-partners with Sarah Durham Wilson to facilitate group mentorship through the Wounded Maiden to Mature Feminine Rites of Passage Program.

Special Guest: Bergen Hyde.

Sponsored By:

Links:

]]> This episode features my dear friend and returning guest, Bergen Hyde and her personal story of divesting from patriarchal religion.

This is a topic I feel is very important because I believe many patriarchal religions are the underpinnings of the trance of unworthiness, keeping many women in positions of servitude and oppression through biblical misinterpretations, scripture and sanctioned abuse.

Bergen generously and courageously shares what it’s been like to untangle from her Mormon faith tradition including the heartache and courage as she unpacks years of repression, and even her own complicity in her own indoctrination.

We explore various aspects of Mormonism and the practices that were most troubling for her including ideologies, rituals, gender roles, body shame, and the perpetuation of patriarchal norms.

We also discuss the intersectionality of patriarchy with racism, fat phobia, homophobia, and transphobia, emphasizing the need to confront internalized oppression and dismantle oppressive systems.

We also delve into topics such as feeling spiritually homeless and named the episode "Losing My Religion” after the song by REM, as Bergen reckons with the truth as she highlights the importance of changing transforming her personal narrative to one of empowerment and sovereignty after years of feeling angry and victimized.

This is a longer episode than usual because it’s such an important topic that requires more space for reflection- I hope you love it as much as I do.

Here’s more of what we cover:

  • What it means to divest from patriarchy The Damsel in Distress and other patriarchal archetypes/ stereotypes of religious women including piety, goodness, and obedience.
  • How we can develop self-trust, self-love, and how we can redesign a life on our own terms outside of patriarchal religions.
  • The process of reclaiming our identity, and facing fears about hurting loved ones as we disengage.
  • Having the courage to challenge harmful patriarchal systems in general.
  • The crucial role of personal storytelling in our lives and reclaiming authorship of our lives.
  • The power of sisterhood and the importance of witnessing each other.
  • The tricky terrains of patriarchal structures and responsibility,
  • The bitter truth about our complicity in patriarchal systems, and how to break the cycles of harm.
  • Recognizing and taking accountability for our role is the first step towards effecting meaningful change.

and so much more!

Bergen Hyde lives in Provo, Utah with her partner and three children. Her favorite things are dancing, salty snacks, spending time in the mountains, and preferably in a body of water.

She is the Co-Founder and Creative Director of WOMB, which she founded with her two sisters Jentri and Sarah. The three sisters hold women’s circles, workshops, retreats, and one-on-one mentoring designed to support women in healing internalized patriarchy, integrating the sacred feminine, and reclaiming personal sovereignty.

Bergen has been devoted to the sacred feminine and regularly co-partners with Sarah Durham Wilson to facilitate group mentorship through the Wounded Maiden to Mature Feminine Rites of Passage Program.

Special Guest: Bergen Hyde.

Sponsored By:

Links:

]]> Episode 176: Elise Loehnen - On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins & the Price Women Pay To Be Good https://revelationproject.fireside.fm/176 3bec8362-aaa8-4e4f-8496-b8cd492de6bf Wed, 02 Aug 2023 00:00:00 -0400 Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC full Monica Rodgers | Revelation Media LLC In this episode, my guest, Elise Loehnen, joins me to discuss her New York Times Best-Selling Book, On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins And The Price Women Pay To Be Good. 57:26 no Welcome to the Revelation Project podcast, where we disrupt the trance of unworthiness to guide women to remember and reveal the truth of who we are. In this episode, my guest, Elise Loehnen, joins me to discuss her New York Times Best-Selling Book, *On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins And The Price Women Pay To Be Good. * She is also a successful writer, editor, and host of the wildly popular *Pulling the Thread *podcast. Elise begins by sharing what led her to write this book- and her experience with chronic hyperventilation disorder, an anxiety disorder, and her challenge to get to the root of it. Elise discusses the symptoms, treatments and dissonance between her interior struggle and her outward demeanor of success. She reflects on the pressures she began to identify, which led her to the revelation that the underpinnings of her stress and striving were rooted in her unconscious allegiance to “good girl” programming. By revealing the systems of patriarchy and its complex impact on women, Elise delves into early Christianity and the subjugation of women throughout history. We touch on the origins and transformation of the Seven Deadly Sins, the elevation and vilification of Mary Magdalene, and how this impacts us even today. Throughout the episode, we weave in behaviors that hold us back as women such as jealousy and envy, and the role they play in women's lives. We also discuss the societal expectations placed on women and the need to free ourselves from external validation The conversation ends with a powerful message about embracing the feminine and reclaiming feminine values to create change in ourselves and in society. Topics Discussed: * The Origin of the Seven Deadly Sins * The “Boogyman of patriarchy” * Elise's experience with chronic hyperventilation disorder and getting to the root of it. * Exploring the pressures to be enough and the internal voices of self-doubt * Understanding the concept of patriarchy and its roots in early Christianity * The elevation and vilification of Mary Magdalene * Embracing the feminine and reclaiming feminine values * The importance of embracing curiosity and personal exploration ** Mentioned:** * Pulling the Thread podcast * Seven Deadly Sins * Mary Magdalene * Pope Gregory I * Lynn Twist Bio Elise Loehnen Fissmer is a writer, editor, and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, living in Los Angeles with her husband, Rob, and their sons, Max and Sam. While she’s co-written 12 books, including five New York Times Best Sellers, she’s currently writing the first book under her own name for Dial Press, an imprint of Penguin Random House. Previously, she was the chief content officer of goop. While there, Elise co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming, including the launch of a magazine with Condé Nast and a book imprint. For the podcast, she interviewed 100s of thought leaders, doctors, and experts, including Ibram X Kendi, Bryan Stevenson, Nicholas Kristof, Ambassador Samantha Power, Rebecca Traister, John &amp; Julie Gottman, among others. Prior to goop, she was the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler. Before Traveler, she was the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she also served as the on-air spokesperson, appearing regularly on shows like Today, E!, Good Morning America, and The Early Show.  She has a B.A. from Yale and majored in English and Fine Arts; she also went to St. Paul’s School in Concord, New Hampshire. Before that, she attended a school where lunchtimes were spent jumping an irrigation ditch. Originally from Missoula, Montana, it's important to her that people know that she went to the National Mathletes Championship when she was in 8th grade and that she’s a horse whisperer. These days, she serves on two boards (Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams and Skinfix), advises a beauty bio-tech start-up (Arcaea), and spends her time writing, reading, and fundraising for causes and politicians focused on environmental action, social justice, women and children’s health, and a more equitable world. Special Guest: Elise Loehnen. connection,consciousness,courage,education,feminine,healing,health,inspiration,love,revelation,selfhelp,selflove,spirituality,vulnerability,women Welcome to the Revelation Project podcast, where we disrupt the trance of unworthiness to guide women to remember and reveal the truth of who we are.

In this episode, my guest, Elise Loehnen, joins me to discuss her New York Times Best-Selling Book, *On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins And The Price Women Pay To Be Good. * She is also a successful writer, editor, and host of the wildly popular _*Pulling the Thread *_podcast.

Elise begins by sharing what led her to write this book- and her experience with chronic hyperventilation disorder, an anxiety disorder, and her challenge to get to the root of it.

Elise discusses the symptoms, treatments and dissonance between her interior struggle and her outward demeanor of success. She reflects on the pressures she began to identify, which led her to the revelation that the underpinnings of her stress and striving were rooted in her unconscious allegiance to “good girl” programming.

By revealing the systems of patriarchy and its complex impact on women, Elise delves into early Christianity and the subjugation of women throughout history. We touch on the origins and transformation of the Seven Deadly Sins, the elevation and vilification of Mary Magdalene, and how this impacts us even today.

Throughout the episode, we weave in behaviors that hold us back as women such as jealousy and envy, and the role they play in women's lives. We also discuss the societal expectations placed on women and the need to free ourselves from external validation

The conversation ends with a powerful message about embracing the feminine and reclaiming feminine values to create change in ourselves and in society.

Topics Discussed:

  • The Origin of the Seven Deadly Sins
  • The “Boogyman of patriarchy”
  • Elise's experience with chronic hyperventilation disorder and getting to the root of it.
  • Exploring the pressures to be enough and the internal voices of self-doubt
  • Understanding the concept of patriarchy and its roots in early Christianity
  • The elevation and vilification of Mary Magdalene
  • Embracing the feminine and reclaiming feminine values
  • The importance of embracing curiosity and personal exploration

** Mentioned:**

  • Pulling the Thread podcast
  • Seven Deadly Sins
  • Mary Magdalene
  • Pope Gregory I
  • Lynn Twist

Bio
Elise Loehnen Fissmer is a writer, editor, and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, living in Los Angeles with her husband, Rob, and their sons, Max and Sam. While she’s co-written 12 books, including five New York Times Best Sellers, she’s currently writing the first book under her own name for Dial Press, an imprint of Penguin Random House. Previously, she was the chief content officer of goop. While there, Elise co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming, including the launch of a magazine with Condé Nast and a book imprint. For the podcast, she interviewed 100s of thought leaders, doctors, and experts, including Ibram X Kendi, Bryan Stevenson, Nicholas Kristof, Ambassador Samantha Power, Rebecca Traister, John & Julie Gottman, among others.

Prior to goop, she was the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler. Before Traveler, she was the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she also served as the on-air spokesperson, appearing regularly on shows like Today, E!, Good Morning America, and The Early Show.  She has a B.A. from Yale and majored in English and Fine Arts; she also went to St. Paul’s School in Concord, New Hampshire. Before that, she attended a school where lunchtimes were spent jumping an irrigation ditch. Originally from Missoula, Montana, it's important to her that people know that she went to the National Mathletes Championship when she was in 8th grade and that she’s a horse whisperer. These days, she serves on two boards (Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams and Skinfix), advises a beauty bio-tech start-up (Arcaea), and spends her time writing, reading, and fundraising for causes and politicians focused on environmental action, social justice, women and children’s health, and a more equitable world.

Special Guest: Elise Loehnen.

Sponsored By:

Links:

]]> Welcome to the Revelation Project podcast, where we disrupt the trance of unworthiness to guide women to remember and reveal the truth of who we are.

In this episode, my guest, Elise Loehnen, joins me to discuss her New York Times Best-Selling Book, *On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins And The Price Women Pay To Be Good. * She is also a successful writer, editor, and host of the wildly popular _*Pulling the Thread *_podcast.

Elise begins by sharing what led her to write this book- and her experience with chronic hyperventilation disorder, an anxiety disorder, and her challenge to get to the root of it.

Elise discusses the symptoms, treatments and dissonance between her interior struggle and her outward demeanor of success. She reflects on the pressures she began to identify, which led her to the revelation that the underpinnings of her stress and striving were rooted in her unconscious allegiance to “good girl” programming.

By revealing the systems of patriarchy and its complex impact on women, Elise delves into early Christianity and the subjugation of women throughout history. We touch on the origins and transformation of the Seven Deadly Sins, the elevation and vilification of Mary Magdalene, and how this impacts us even today.

Throughout the episode, we weave in behaviors that hold us back as women such as jealousy and envy, and the role they play in women's lives. We also discuss the societal expectations placed on women and the need to free ourselves from external validation

The conversation ends with a powerful message about embracing the feminine and reclaiming feminine values to create change in ourselves and in society.

Topics Discussed:

  • The Origin of the Seven Deadly Sins
  • The “Boogyman of patriarchy”
  • Elise's experience with chronic hyperventilation disorder and getting to the root of it.
  • Exploring the pressures to be enough and the internal voices of self-doubt
  • Understanding the concept of patriarchy and its roots in early Christianity
  • The elevation and vilification of Mary Magdalene
  • Embracing the feminine and reclaiming feminine values
  • The importance of embracing curiosity and personal exploration

** Mentioned:**

  • Pulling the Thread podcast
  • Seven Deadly Sins
  • Mary Magdalene
  • Pope Gregory I
  • Lynn Twist

Bio
Elise Loehnen Fissmer is a writer, editor, and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread, living in Los Angeles with her husband, Rob, and their sons, Max and Sam. While she’s co-written 12 books, including five New York Times Best Sellers, she’s currently writing the first book under her own name for Dial Press, an imprint of Penguin Random House. Previously, she was the chief content officer of goop. While there, Elise co-hosted The goop Podcast and The goop Lab on Netflix, and led the brand’s content strategy and programming, including the launch of a magazine with Condé Nast and a book imprint. For the podcast, she interviewed 100s of thought leaders, doctors, and experts, including Ibram X Kendi, Bryan Stevenson, Nicholas Kristof, Ambassador Samantha Power, Rebecca Traister, John & Julie Gottman, among others.

Prior to goop, she was the editorial projects director of Conde Nast Traveler. Before Traveler, she was the editor at large and deputy editor of Lucky Magazine, where she also served as the on-air spokesperson, appearing regularly on shows like Today, E!, Good Morning America, and The Early Show.  She has a B.A. from Yale and majored in English and Fine Arts; she also went to St. Paul’s School in Concord, New Hampshire. Before that, she attended a school where lunchtimes were spent jumping an irrigation ditch. Originally from Missoula, Montana, it's important to her that people know that she went to the National Mathletes Championship when she was in 8th grade and that she’s a horse whisperer. These days, she serves on two boards (Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams and Skinfix), advises a beauty bio-tech start-up (Arcaea), and spends her time writing, reading, and fundraising for causes and politicians focused on environmental action, social justice, women and children’s health, and a more equitable world.

Special Guest: Elise Loehnen.

Sponsored By:

Links:

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